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  denied babtism

  by rakiasp in

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  i have a question that puzzles me and would like to receive some ideas.

  i used to be a witness for two years before fading away, leaving quietly.

  i was not disfellowshipped and i did not write a letter of dissasociation.. the way i got babtised was such that noone from my congragation saw it since the babtisees were taken by buses from the convention to a private swimming pool.

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  Mommy -

  You got gifts when you were baptised? I didn't even get the bird!
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  Sometimes I go to a meeting.

  by dmouse in

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  sometimes i go to a meeting...usually when the co visits in case they actually say something of interest.

  the reason i go occasionally is to validate my decision to leave 2 hours at the meeting is enough to convince any normal person with a brain that it is not the truth.. i went this morning.

  it was the same old drivel are your stressed or discouraged?

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  c'mon, TJ, you aren't saying the moon is made of charcoal, are you? Skimmer certainly didn't say it was. we all know it's Wemsleydale cheese.

  As dark as a charcoal briquette is, it does reflect some light, doesn't it? If you were to hold that charcoal in the blinding glare of a hollywood searchlight, you would find that as dark as the charcoal was, it would still reflect enough light to make it difficult for you to look at it.

  The moon is illuminated by the blinding glare of our sun, and is displayed against the unforgiving darkness of space. By contrast with the dark sky, the moon is bright.

  What if the moon was more reflective? If the moon had an albedo of 1.00, it would be more than 14 times brighter than it is on a clear "full moon" night, and night would probably be more like twilight.
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  denied babtism

  by rakiasp in

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  i have a question that puzzles me and would like to receive some ideas.

  i used to be a witness for two years before fading away, leaving quietly.

  i was not disfellowshipped and i did not write a letter of dissasociation.. the way i got babtised was such that noone from my congragation saw it since the babtisees were taken by buses from the convention to a private swimming pool.

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  You owe them nothing. If you lie to God's Faithful Servants you may have to spend an extra 50,000 years roasting in the pit: you'll need to consult a true "spiritual authority" (AKA-liar) to be sure.

  Other than that, it should be fun. Give 'em a bit of the ol' mind tweak!

  Let us know how it goes!
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  Are we in Jesus's Reign?

  by ballistic in

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  sorry, to ask a basic question.

  (and i have been accused of requiring spiritual milk in an email),.

  but i just want to get this straight:.

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  SJ/AGuest, may you have SERENITY NOW!

  Your personal theologial revelations are of the same fine quality as the Watchtower's teachings: something pulled out of your ass to give you pretentions of importance and superiority. Stick it back where the sun don't shine, and may you find peace in doing so.

  That certainly ain't pate you're serving on those crackers.
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  Serious question -- LIBIDO

  by spaceghost in

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  hi i'm kinda embarrassed to ask you this, but you people seem like an okay gang... i have a very low sex drive, and i don't know what to do about it.

  i love my bf, and i find him really attractive and all, but lately (2 months) it's been getting really hard on us.

  i just don't "feel" like having sex at all.. now i don't want to consult a doctor, and that's final.

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  Nathan Natas

  Welcome, SpaceGhost!

  I don't have any experience with those herbal products.

  I would consider your age and fitness level. I 'm not asking you to reveal this personal information, but you might want to give it some thought. Once the animal (the body) is tuned up and feeling good, it will demand its due.

  I'm not saying you have to be a 20 year old Olympic athlete. Is your animal happy?

  by the way, SG, will you be conducting any interviews during your visits here?
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  Are we in Jesus's Reign?

  by ballistic in

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  sorry, to ask a basic question.

  (and i have been accused of requiring spiritual milk in an email),.

  but i just want to get this straight:.

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  A Satanic/Messianic detente!

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  Yeah, Jesus is ruling - he's mayor of a small town in Mexico!
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  Sometimes I go to a meeting.

  by dmouse in

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  sometimes i go to a meeting...usually when the co visits in case they actually say something of interest.

  the reason i go occasionally is to validate my decision to leave 2 hours at the meeting is enough to convince any normal person with a brain that it is not the truth.. i went this morning.

  it was the same old drivel are your stressed or discouraged?

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  Hi Skimmer,

  You are absolutely correct about the reflectiviity of the lunar surface. For the benefit of others, the word albedo means "whiteness." If the moon where perfectly white it would have an albedo of 1.00. A neutral gray card, used in photography as a mid-point between black and white, has an albedo of about 0.16. "So," you ask, "why is the moon so bright?" The moon is bright because the sun is so much brighter, and every day on the moon is a sunny day.

  Once again the faith-based "science" of Watchtower laboratories proves triumphant - until compared with reality.
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  Climbing mount impossible.

  by sleepy in

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  thats what witnesses have to do every day.. why?.

  first they are told they are imperfect , that they can never fight the desires of the flesh.. then they are told that they must follow the example of jesus who is perfect.. so they are encouraged to engage in the ministry work attend all meetings do bible study amongst other tasks.. if they fail to do so the magazines and talks make clear they are spiritually weak.

  so they must try harder .. to progress you must do more on the ministry go to more meetings and do more study.. yet at what point does imperfection kick in and rule out doing more of these things.. if you fail to go on the ministry on a saturday morning even though you are not in work are you spiritually weak or imperfect?.

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  Absolutely correct; it's called a "double bind" situation - damned if you don't and damned if you do.

  I like your subject line. Are you familiar with the book, "Mount Analogue" by Daumal?
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  Elijah The Third , new face.

  by ElijahTheThird in

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  and takes a comfy chair.

  sets out a plate of great snacks and beverages with a nod of the head.

  (aint cyber space great!

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  Hi Elijah3,

  There are other prophesy's that John never fulfilled that the next Elijah would.

  Am I correct in understanding that you claim to be here in fulfillment of bible prophecy?

  Good thing you're not delusional!

  I'll pass on that "water," thank you very much.
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  Last Days

  by disneycuty in

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  do you believe that we are in the "last days?

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  I think most here join with me in the expectation that we are living in the last days of The Watchtower Bible & Tract Society.